009. Mourning & Grief w/ Liz Allen
009. Mourning & Grief w/ Liz Allen
By Brian Arbor | September 3, 2025
About Liz Allen:
Liz Allen is a 23-year Board Certified Chaplain and Grief Counselor, working in hospitals with individuals and families to support their emotional and spiritual needs.
Prior to her current work, she was a registered Occupational Therapist for over 30 years. The scope of her practice included working with pediatrics, rehabilitation, nursing homes, acute medicine, and mental health patients.
In addition, Liz has a Master’s Degree in Education and taught at the University of Wisconsin Occupational and Physical Therapy Schools for several years.
In this episode:
In this episode, Brian speaks with Liz Allen just weeks after the death of her younger sister. Despite nearly three decades of working with loss, Liz finds herself navigating grief she's never experienced before: losing a sibling. She shares what it means to let yourself have grief rather than avoid it, the difference between grief and mourning, and why the parts of people we resisted in life are often what we miss the most.
Key Conversations:
Survivor’s Guilt
Grief vs. Mourning & How to Heal
The Lakota Teaching on Grief
Quote from Liz Allen on How to Grieve:
“You write about it, you talk about it, you art about it, you dream about it, you share about it with someone. Get it out of you. Give it its own life… You need to let it be so it can let you be.”
How to Connect with Liz:
Please send all connection requests to brian@tracesoftrauma.com, and we will facilitate an introduction.
Traces of Trauma Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Embrace The Darkness: Somatic Breathwork for Grief and Healing | embracethedarkness.org
Practical Sanctuary: Sensory Interior Design | practicalsanctuary.com
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